By Jason McKeown
One of my favourite episodes of the cult 90s comedy, Father Ted, is called Speed 3. It parodies the Hollywood blockbuster film that starred Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock, with Father Dougal stuck driving a milk float around Craggy Island, where if his speed drops below 4mph, a bomb will go off.
As Ted tries to save Dougal, he calls up two of his priest friends for help, and they line up on a trailer next to the milk float. You think they’re doing to find a way to rescue Dougal, but no. Instead, they start to perform Mass – complete with ceremonial table and candles.
Realising that calls for divine intervention might not be enough, they get Dougal to circle a mini roundabout, and race back to Ted’s house to think up a more practical plan to save the day.
We see a scene designed to show that lots of time is passing. Tense music plays, as they each debate and plot a plan on a blackboard. Finally, we get to close up shot of Ted, ready to reveal their carefully considered solution.
Father Ted: “That’s the idea?”
Father Beeching: “It’s the best we’ve had.”
Father Ted: “Another Mass – that’s our best idea?”
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At Bradford City right now, we’re in a bind. There might not be any armed milk floats to defuse, but the season is not going to plan, leading to growing frustration from an expectant crowd. Saturday’s 1-1 draw with Harrogate Town saw things become toxic, with vocal displays of anger during the second half especially. City stand a lowly 17th in a league table beginning to take shape, with only two wins from their first eight matches. Just six league goals. Only two clean sheets.
It’s all leading to growing talk and disquiet about Mark Hughes. For this first time in his Valley Parade managerial tenure, Hughes is under pressure – with a rising number of supporters wanting him out. Unhappiness abounds. And it points towards a growing likelihood of trying a solution akin to Father Ted performing another mass to rescue Dougal.
Another managerial change – that’s our best idea?
“I thought the other one went very well”
It’s all depressingly familiar to be talking about sacking a Bradford City manager. Since February 2018, and the monumentally foolish decision to dismiss Stuart McCall when the Bantams stood in League One’s play off places, swapping managers has become a regular occurrence. An approach that just hasn’t worked.
You don’t need a history lesson, but let’s quickly remind ourselves. Simon Grayson, 14 games in charge. Michael Collins, 7. David Hopkin chalked up 35 games. Gary Bowyer, 48. McCall returned again and got 28 matches. Mark Trueman and Conor Sellars, 31. Derek Adams held the reins for 37.
Each appointment promised fresh hope of reversing the club’s early 2018 decline. Each of those appointments did not work out. Roll the dice again, and hope for the best. Okay, that didn’t work. Now roll it again.
Hughes has now had 78 games at the helm – an eternity when judged against the other modern Bradford City managerial tenures. But when you tally up his and all the other post-McCall second spell tenures together – it comes out at eight managers overseeing 278 matches. For comparison, Phil Parkinson’s five-year tenure saw him chalk up 274 matches in the City dug out.
We’ve completed the equivalent of Parkinson’s hugely successful reign of stability, only chopping and changing again and again. And we’ve pretty much gone backwards each and every time.
Except for Hughes’ tenure.
Yes of course, things do not look great so far this season. But after years and years of hoping that a change will lead to a reversal in fortunes, in Hughes City finally have a manager who has taken them forwards. Last season’s play off finish might have been an on-par expectation that limits some of the credit afforded to Hughes, but Adams and Bowyer in particular were managing to similar expectations and failed. Against a backdrop of so much decline post-2017, for any City manager to deliver some success is not something we should quickly shrug off.
Hughes got more time than the last seven managerial appointments, and last season was the first since 2016/17 that the same person who began the season in the Valley Parade dugout kept their job. It was also the first since 2016/17 that City made the play offs. There was stability, when before there was uncertainty and chaos.
The point is that the club’s approach to changing managers over the past five years has failed repeatedly. Why would removing Hughes now prove to be any different?
“Is there anything to be said for saying another Mass another change of manager?”
The counter argument to keeping Hughes is there and shouldn’t be ignored. Sticking with a manager is all well and good when the direction of travel is forwards. But when things are going wrong, sometimes you just have to act.
And so far this season, reasons to be happy and confident about Hughes’ prospects are in short supply. Performances have been patchy at best, with only sporadic spells where the team has looked convincing. The change of playing style looked unnecessary, given the overall success of the season before. Many of the new signings look unconvincing. The squad does not look stronger than last season.
Hughes stands accused of being out of touch. Of adopting tactics that are slightly behind the times. Of not reading the room when it comes to some of his post-match interviews. Of failing to instil confidence in supporters that things will get better.
It’s also unclear just how much his squad are buying into Hughes’ ways. The treatment of certain individuals – Jake Young and Matty Foulds, for example – do not sit well. Whichever way you look at it, the optics of Young’s form at Swindon reflect incredibly badly on Hughes. A player the manager overlooked for nearly a year, and who in the summer Hughes appeared to be actively pushing out, is now out-scoring his parent club on his own.
The Bradford City public was not entirely on board with last season’s possession-based style of play, but generally accepted the principles. This campaign, the football has become more stodgy, laboured and dull. There is yet to be a game and a performance that’s left supporters buzzing with excitement. No match that if you’d have missed it you’d have felt gutted.
This comes at a time when the average number of goals in League Two is rocketing compared to recent seasons. Swindon have scored 22 times so far, Wrexham have 20. In total, 11 of the 23 League Two rivals have netted double or more the amount City have scored. There have been 5-5 draws, a 6-0, two 5-3s, a 4-3, a 3-3. Gillingham aside, teams at the top are going for it in a big way, giving their fans plenty of excitement.
In contrast, City’s last three league games have seen just 11 shots on target from both teams involved. It’s all so tepid. Making an already restless crowd more agitated.
So yeah, there are reasons to sack Hughes right now. Just as there were reasons to sack Adams. Reasons to stand down Trueman. Reasons to fire Bowyer, Hopkin and the rest. There were even reasons to sack McCall in his second spell, back in February 2018.
But that doesn’t always make it the right answer.
“Oh, God, I love saying Mass changing managers”
The urge for Stefan Rupp and Ryan Sparks to press the red button now is understandable. Results aren’t up to scratch. And when supporter anger starts to rise, sacking a manager feels like a definitive action. A way of demonstrating that you’re doing something about it. And probably the only available option to express it.
In contrast, not changing managers leaves you accused of accepting a poor situation (or, in Ryan Sparks’ case after his infamous 2021 interview when he stood down Trueman, of “accepting mediocrity”). Don’t sack a manager, and are you really saying you’re okay with this? You can see why it can be hard to hold your nerve, when the easier choice can sometimes lie in drawing up a P45.
No one knows how Rupp and Sparks are viewing things right now, but the lessons from those repeated changes of manager in recent seasons mustn’t be ignored. Sometimes a change had to have been made – Adams’ toxicity left the club with a decision no one could argue with – but even merited sackings shouldn’t absolve owners and CEOs from the blame of making an ill-judged appointment in the first place. From Grayson’s arrival to Adams’ appointment, City were stuck on a spiral of getting it wrong.
Hughes has undoubtedly proved the best appointment of Spark’s tenure, and – McCall spell 2 aside – of Rupp’s time as owner too. And it took a lot of hiring and firing to get to this point. Sometimes, doing nothing is the harder choice – but it’s also the correct one.
Rightly or wrongly, another key consideration for Rupp and Sparks must be the likelihood of arrows coming your way. For the moment, Hughes is the focal point of supporter discontent. And if you’re Rupp/Sparks, doing something about that could boost your popularity in the short-term. But they will both know that the ire would soon quickly fall their way too. Especially if sacking and replacing Hughes doesn’t lead to improvement.
One of the many things that Hughes’ 2022 appointment brought Rupp and Sparks was time. The criticisms aired then – that the club lacked ambition, professionalism and competence – were getting louder. Hughes’ arrival quelled that, because it was a positive answer to the critics. A demonstration of their ambition and intent.
The attack dogs were called off then, with ‘Rupp out’ calls disappearing overnight. They’ve started to emerge again recently, but not in a significant way. Still, it’s not hard to envisage them getting louder if there’s a change of manager and City still falter.
If you’re going to sack Hughes anytime soon, you’d better have a plan.
“Well, that was no help. He didn’t even say Mass change managers”
Not a single club who finished in League Two’s top seven in 2022/23 changed managers mid-season. It was the same for the top seven the year before that.
At this stage last season, Carlisle – like City now – only had 10 points. As we know only too painfully, the Cumbrians went onto be promoted. The year before that at this point, Bristol Rovers were 22nd with only seven points – they would end the season automatically promoted. And the year before that, Bolton were 16th on six points – they too finished in the automatic promotion spots.
It’s early, early days. And we really shouldn’t panic.
We are the victim of a situation of our own making, but the issues with the squad right now are understandably having an impact. Andy Cook is injured, and his most obvious replacement – Vadaine Oliver – is also sidelined. Alex Pattison was the standout summer signing and started really well. He too has been out for nearly a month. Harry Chapman is a long-term absentee. Tyler Smith and Clarke Oduor have had availability issues. The late transfer window recruits are raw.
It should get better when Cook and Pattison return. Had they been available against Grimsby and Harrogate, City would have probably won both games. There are reasons to believe results and performances will improve.
And that leaves us to what I would argue are the strongest reasons to keep Hughes as manager. His composure, his detachment and his perspective – as unhelpful as it might come across in a post-match interview – are good traits in difficult times. Hughes is the first manager at Valley Parade since Phil Parkinson with the calm assurance not get too panicky or ruffled by set backs.
Only once since the start of last season have City lost back-to-back games. No matter how bad it feels some days – Crawley and Morecambe being great examples – Hughes has that quiet leadership and serenity to get the team to recover. We don’t need to look far for predecessors who – when it started to go wrong – could not apply the brakes. Where set backs quicky escalated into crisis.
I think Hughes has the know-how and experience to get City’s season going. To not run with the herd of alarm. And to give the players the assurance they need to keep going. These are qualities not easy to find in League Two managers. And the experience of Parkinson’s tenure in particular – where bumps in the road were plenty, but always navigated successfully – shows that these are good attributes to have at an emotional football club like Bradford City.
The question is – do the powers-that-be have the same level of cool conviction? Because while the darkening supporter mood and sliding results is not a new thing for them to manage, sticking to a plan in tricky moments most certainly is.
We’re entering a period of uncertainty where – for the last five years – the answer has always been to change the manager. Do Rupp and Sparks have another plan, or is it time for us all to pray again?
Categories: Opinion
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What’s wrong with the club
1. Rupp
2. Season ticket prices are too low
3. Sparks needs to be moved away from football decisions and left to the commercial side
4. Hughes failed last year and looks like he will fail again
Which of these can be fixed?
I think when everyone is back (or should I say some of them as a club always has injured players) we’ll be fine.
I’m impressed with virtually all the signings / debutants, particularly Richards and think that none of the inexperienced players who started / or finished on Saturday looked terrible.
They just looked naive. So it would have been best if these players, some of which were always signed as reserves, were a bit more experienced, i.e. played as much as Tyrek Wright had when he joined us.
Sacking Hughes isn’t even a debate to me. It would be a foolish move. I’m sure Julian has looked around and done the stats, virtually no club has had any success in constantly sacking managers.
With Richards in defence looks better than last season and I’m afraid that when we have three players out who have scored most of the goals per minute since the start of last season (Cook, Pattinson and yes Oliver) it’s inevitable that a bit of nous is missing and the shots on target figure suffers accordingly.
I am in the camp of not pulling the trigger, I am tired of the same people online who post one line comments which then go on to provoke others to follow like sheep. Hughes recent comments about keeping perspective are correct, let’s judge him when he has his first choice starting 11. That said though, Hughes has to take some responsibility for his tactics and admit he has got it wrong.
It’s good to have principles but sometimes you have to swallow your pride and admit you got it wrong, this will be shown with progress on the pitch.
I think the squad has definitely been improved in some areas, in addition to retaining the likes of Cook and Lewis.
Midfield is a step up with Pattison and McDonald (who hasn’t really got up to speed yet after his pre-season injury). Full back areas have stronger competition, while Platt and Stubbs were statistically our best pairing at CB last year. Up front Smith adds a bit of pace we were missing though obviously without Oliver we are lacking an obvious Cook replacement. The only areas up for debate are out wide and its too early to judge the new recruits.
I think we got it wrong recruitment wise focusing on the 5-3-2 as we’ve now ended up with yet another bloated squad after deciding we want wingers after all. But I think we need to give Hughes a bit more time to bed in the new signings, and get his main men back.
It’s an important point on injuries. Had we had Cook and Pattison for the last 3 draws likely we’d have an additional 4 points. Hughes football has not been exciting, but it has been (relatively) effective.
With Chapman to come back in too it really changes your attacking outlook. While Chapman didn’t show much in front of goal last season he did have a goal scoring season on loan at Shrewsbury (in L1) not long ago and he’d also started to find really find form pre injury.
On the flip side it’s difficult when you lose the fans. The negative impact is dismissed by those wanted to express their displeasure but if fans believe they can be a 12th man they also must believe they can be a negative force. We now turn up waiting to be excited and for the players to get us going rather than vice-versa. Lampard mentioned it a couple of years ago the impact it can have at the top level so it definitely can for players at this level
Fans have every right to be displeased and show that. It’s difficult turning up Saturday after Saturday for a drab affair but once they’re lost rarely do you see things move positively in the right direction.
I’m not one for chopping and changing I’d stick with Hughes but if there is an argument for changing that is it. I actually think recruitment since Gent has been in has been quite good – although not for 352 – we have a good squad of players. Are we giving them the platform by having a manager who has lost the crowd.
I’ve was quite critical of Chapman, but due to the injury to Walker – he was forced to play in a position which isn’t his best.
Regarding injuries, we did get away with it last season in that we didn’t have a wave of them like we currently have. That said, nearly everyone agreed that if Cook or Lewis were to be out for a while then we would really struggle – we’re seeing the reality of that now. We managed to ride it last season but we’ve been caught now.
I also read at the weekend we’ve signed 35 players since the summer of 2022, including 11 in the last window when we supposedly didn’t need to change things too much. This churning through players offers almost no stability, and while I get it is somewhat normal in League 2 to wheel and deal, this quantity seems illogical. Also things like signing 2-3 wingers and a centre back in the last days of the window, when we obviously needed a forward / Cook replacement make you wonder what the recruitment approach is. At this point it should be questioned as it doesn’t seem to be working.
It’s too early to sack a manager – any manager – let alone one who has been allowed to sign so many players or who is suffering so many key injuries. Sadly, however, I’ve personally made up my mind Hughes will not take this club to promotion. The most prudent thing to do is wait and see, watch for signs of either improvement or deterioration – whilst compiling a list of possible replacements.
A quick reminder that Bradford City AFC have lost TWO games this season, out of ten, and remain unbeaten at home. Who sacks a manager after two away defeats?
I think everyone, including Mark Hughes himself, would agree things have been less than ideal so far this season, but does that mean it’s time to push the nucular button?
In my view, some fans have gone a bit M.A.D (that’s Mutually Assured Destruction). Boo Mark Hughes, and everyone loses.
Sacking Mark Hughes? That would be an ecumenical matter.
I’m in the Hughes out camp.
When Hughes first arrived following the Adams’ spell, it was like a breath of fresh air. In stark contrast to Adams’ style, we played on the front foot, attacked teams at will and played some beautiful free-flowing football. We finished the season strongly and we were all excited about the following season.
That season obviously led to us competing in the play-offs, which was, as Jason writes in the article, ‘par’, it was certainly not a ‘birdie’ season. In my opinion we had made some fantastic summer signings and arguably had the best squad in the division. However, I felt like we took a step backwards in playing style, despite keeping the 4-5-1 that was so effective towards the back end of the season prior. The way our players had been instructed to use the ball felt rather disjointed, particularly at home. We established a style of play which involved over-playing on our own 18 yard line which drew our CMs deeper and deeper leaving our forward four players isolated further up the pitch with no clear route to getting the ball to them. It was a more reserved style and although it performed well away from home, without Cook’s heroics, we would have been at best mid-table.
Fast forward to this current season and our playing style has regressed further. It is clear Hughes wants us to play possession based football but the system isn’t conducive to this. In my opinion, if you are playing three centre halves, you need to be playing two central strikers. Playing a lone central striker with two wide forwards leaves the central striker too isolated and deprives the wing backs with the space required out wide due to the wide forwards (and therefore opposition defenders) occupying this area of the pitch. This has essentially made the system feel like a flat back five.
I am a big admirer of Hughes’ professionalism, calmness and in some cases (Young and Foulds excepted) his man management. I thought his management of Cook over pre-season and the start of the season last year was phenomenal and was fundamental to Cook’s incredible output.
However, I see a stubbornness in him that is holding the team back. I believe we have a squad that once again is arguably the best in the division. Many of our players wouldn’t look out of place in the league above and we have great strength in depth. What concerns me is the persistence to sticking to a system which clearly isn’t working, a lack of willingness to experiment when clearly a game is getting away from us and, what seems like an inflexibility in instructing the team to use the ball in a different way when it is clear we are coming up against a team that has an effective counter to our playing out from the back ethos.
Hughes’ experience at the top level of the game is vast, but did he ever have more than a couple of successful seasons? I’m led to believe his team’s best placed finishes have been 6th which includes last season with us. This is not a track record that convinces me he can turn this around.
So I vote for ‘let’s have another mass’, let us roll the dice again. I struggle to see a big enough improvement on the horizon with this management team without a significant change in playing style. A change that I don’t see Hughes making. It is true that we could change manager and find someone who performs worse than the current incumbents, although I believe we have enough quality in the squad to ensure relegation isn’t a realistic threat.
The season is young, Jason cites several examples of teams that have ‘made it’ from here. A new manager is exactly what is needed to change the style and push us forwards. To take the shackles off our talented squad and get them playing in a system that promotes attack minded, entertaining football.
Hughes out.
I’m on the fence. The entertainment value is none existent. We have players capable of cutting through opposition like knives through butter, yet for reasons only they know, they pass backwards or sideways instead… and because they are league two players, sometimes even those passes go awry.
That kind of play has to come from the training ground.
However, if we change now, who else is available with the authority and know-how to get this lot on the front foot?
Definitely a damned if you do, damned if you don’t decision for Rupp and Sparks
I’m for sticking with MH. He must now know the clock is ticking so let’s see how he reacts. If we are in the same position in 10 games time then maybe then would be the time to act. Would love to see unconditional support in the meantime as the atmosphere at VP at the moment can’t help however understandable the frustration is. Come on City!
Tired of hearing Mark Hughes’ critics go on go on go on go on go on go on go on go on go on
You can accept a boring, turgid style if you’re winning games, except we aren’t winning. Cook saved his bacon last season and took our attention away from just how much of a drag it was to haul ourselves down to VP to watch lack lustre performance, after lack lustre performance.
I’ve not forgiven him for meekly surrendering the play off tie and his whole demeanour in the second leg made we question whether we really wanted to go up.
I’ve never attended a home game , like Saturday, where a last minute equaliser was met with such a deflated reaction.
His style of football has killed the match day experience at VP.
The fans will decide when it’s time for him to go. I made up my mind watching that second leg at Carlisle and subsequent events have only reinforced that view.
The sad fact in the fourth tier is a manager’s shelf life is short – the successful one’s get poached and the failure’s get fired.
“The sad fact in the fourth tier is a manager’s shelf life is short – the successful one’s get poached and the failure’s get fired”
Not correct. If you look at the stats surrounding the promoted teams of the last few seasons, you’ll find;-
1) All lot (>90%) were in place before the season started
2) A fair proportion had been there for more than one season
3) Very few were new that season and those that were – came in during the summer
4) None, certainly since 2016/17, had been appointed after the season started. In other words since this time, changing the manager has a 0% promotion success rate.
It’s a “short shelf life” exclusively for those clubs who are now in The Conference!!
Not a clue what you’re point is or what you’re trying to prove, so I’ll make it simple for you.
Mark Hughes has been here eighteen months and in charge for 78 games. He’s been supported to the hilt. Steve Evans joined Stevenage around the same time and got them promoted last season. Richie Wellens joined Leyton Orient, also at the same time, and got them promoted last season. Two managers who joined their clubs at the same time as Hughes and proved how much time you need to get a club promoted.
The nearest Hughes looks like being poached is, because, fan reaction suggests he’s toast.
Apologies. I’ll make it simple.
Firstly, I’m aware of the fact that all three promoted clubs had managers appointed around the same time and have clearly done better.
However, in League 2, sacking the manager after the season has started has resulted in, since at least as long ago as 2016/17, in none of those teams been promoted. Are we bucking this tread, because we’re ‘big’ Bradford City? If you can guarantee that – then lets get rid!!
The reality is that numerous teams have had moderate starts to a L2 season and recovered well – Bolton, Bristol Rovers and Carlisle are three such examples. Two of our legendary managers had worse starts than us and got us in one case
Wycombe, under Gareth Ainsworth had literally seasons of up and down L2 form – but eventually got there.
Yet, you seem to think that getting rid of Hughes, now, is the answer.
Answer for what, exactly?
I’m firmly in the out camp (or at least see out this season but make it clear we won’t renew his contract).
How can he survive the boring style of football – let alone the results? The home record in his tenure had been poor – results and style. How often is he sat in his seat, saying nothing, not encouraging the team? Is he bothered enough? No he isn’t.
How long before we lose supporters – are all STH actually turning up? I suspect not and we are reporting dodgy numbers.
Who could replace him? Almost any L2 experienced manager could make this group more effective.
Throw bricks at me if you wish but that’s my view.
I’m not ready to pull the trigger yet but … Hughes has to give us something. Anything !!
We’re not going to win every week. That’s not the expectation. The frustration comes from seemingly not even having a real go. 2 home games v Grimsby and Harrogate total 3 shots on target. That’s grim. End of.
Cook was never going to repeat last season freakish season. Those goals combined with Lewis and Banks papered over the cracks of what many could see was an average team. Even with his goals we couldn’t muster promotion. Without his goals and a weaker squad then this is further away from a promotion season.
I’m intrigued when people say “we’ll be alright”. What’s alright ? For me anything less than promotion is abject failure. If Hughes doesn’t achieve that he won’t be here next year. Does this look like a promotion year? Absolutely not. If things carry on as they are that itself is a reason for change.
It will always be a frustration that teams with fewer resources and potential out perform is. Look what Evans has done with Stevenage in the same timescales Hughes has taken us backwards.
Something is not right though and the blame isn’t just on Hughes. If he fails to put it right thiugh and quick it will become too toxic for him to continue. Would I trust Sparks to get a football decision right ? No I wouldn’t. And so the endless cycle of underperformance and mismanagement continues to ruin our Saturdays. Depressing really.
I love my brick!
I’m a bit on the fence with this one. I can understand compelling arguments either way. However, off the top of my head I think I would do the following if I were Ryan Sparks:
– Keep Hughes in post, but insist that he starts playing a more attacking and entertaining brand of football (especially at home). If this isn’t implemented within the next 2-3 games, he’s gone.
– Set some kind of target for end of November – like we must be in the playoff spots or he’s gone.
– Hire a long-term ‘Director of Football’, who overseas all recruitment, and has to sign off on all future recruitment to make sure we stop signing poor players and wasting talent.
– Bring in some kind of mentor/advisory system, which looks at everything that is being done at the club (recruitment, training, team selection, formation, playing style, etc), and provides an outsiders feedback/insight into how these areas are being run/managed, and gives ideas for how things could be improved. (I get this idea from hearing people like Gary Jones on the radio who is great at pointing out obvious issues he sees in the games – why not harness this?). I get the feeling that perhaps when you are a manager, you get so bogged down in the detail, that you can’t see the wood for the trees, so having some healthy outside challenge/support would surely be a good thing? – It doesn’t have to undermine the manager if done correctly.
Perhaps these are all pipe-dreams, but there must be better way than the constant hiring and firing managers.
It’s a tough one, we are struggling with injuries, the off season’s plans for 5 at the back is clearly not working and the fans are rightly pissed off with the quality of entertainment they are paying for.
At the same time, Hughes is a decent figure head for the club, the performances are boring but not dire, changing a manager is a huge gamble.
If I was advising, I’d suggest that Glynn Hodges takes the fall. Bring in someone younger, a little more able to relate to the players, someone to challenge Hughes, someone to change up the dynamic on the training field. I don’t feel it needs a lot, but it does need something.
Get Cook , Chapman and Pattinson back then watch us start moving up the league .
If the whole team exhibited the same endeavour as Jamie Walker we would have won on Saturday at a canter and things would be looking a whole lot rosier. As it stands the business model at VP provides a slightly better than average budget for Hughes. In the absence of a benefactor with deep pockets there is always the danger that those clubs with more limited resources are just better at getting more bang for their buck. There is probably some merit in the argument for some additional football know how at Board level (Warnock consultancy anyone?!…or a Barry Fry type). There is some mitigation in terms of injuries but the squad is big enough and we should be able to cope. Unless the wheels come off spectacularly over the next few weeks you would imagine MH will be given time and on reflection that is probably the right approach
In everything that has been said or written since Saturday, one question – rarely answered – stands out to me.
Is Mark Hughes going to get Bradford City promoted this season?
If you think yes – and I hope you’re right – then we’ll need the Cook of last season and a run of form that we haven’t ever achieved under Hughes previously.
If no, but you don’t think we should stick with Hughes, then you are giving up on this season. There are only very limited circumstances where his contract gets renewed at the end of the season if we didn’t go up (eg we came mighty close, we play like Spain 2012 in the second half of the season). And what is the tipping point for you? The longer he stays when he isn’t achieving, the more fractured it will become. If you don’t want to sack him just because you don’t want to sack another manager, then I’m sorry but that alone is not a good enough reason (Bradford City will not get any more points because you feel principled by sticking with a losing hand).
If no and you want Hughes sacked, then do you think we will improve significantly after sacking him/after appointing someone else? Because I don’t, I don’t think this squad of players is good enough to get promoted. Will there be any level of introspection at the club? Will anyone else assess their own contribution?
While I think Hughes is cooked, we should give him more time. And by that, he gets until after Swindon at home. Three winnable games and then a form team at the top to compare against. I don’t think he’ll turn it around – I hope he does – but by then there may a broader consensus on where the season is heading and what that means.
I normally agree with the consensus of opinion on here, so that’s why I’m surprised with the tone of some of the recent articles and comments.
When we had Stuart in charge, all we heard on here was about the need for stability, which was a persuasive legitimate argument for him keeping his job, but now a club legend is no longer at the helm, we seem to be tearing up the rule book, and advocating an approach more of a Watford.
Of course I get frustrated with Hughes’ negative tactics, and his supposed preference for 3 at the back which the player’s don’t appear comfortable with.
Let us not forget though, that he’s been without last season’s leading scorer for the last few games, and he has took us into the play offs, when no other manager since we’ve been back in this division has got anywhere near, plus we are only 8 games into the season, so he certainly deserves more time to be able to turn things around.
Hughes is certainly on thin ice. Hopefully results turn quickly. He’s got until December for me. I do already think promotion is off the table this season though. We seem to be lacking in too many areas for it all to suddenly “click” not enough goals or threat. Weak midfield. Conceding too many.
How can we even be talking about Hughes “being on the brink of the sack” after what is nothing more than a slightly poor start to the season? It’s hysteria.
Great content Jason
Hughes in for me. We absolutley progressed under him last season, and yes he did make mistakes, which ultimately cost us. However, we were a much better compared to previous seasons. We just need to take a step back and remember where we were pre Hughes and how far we have come since Hughes came in.
Sacking Hughes now is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction pandering to those fans who can’t hold their nereve and miss the bigger picture.
I totally get the frustration, it’s completely understandable when the football on offer is far from entertaining and we look poor going forward. But let’s just pause there for a moment. Why is it we look poor from an attacking sense?
Change in formation and players not suited to it? Yes in part and that does fall on Hughes, but the biggest and most obvious reason is the constraints he’s operating under.
Practically all his proven attacking options at this level are out through injury. Midfield and wide options in the case of Pattison and Chapman and even Odour to an extent. They are integral to linking midfield with attack, creating chances and popping up with goals themselves. A fully fit McDonald would also make things interesting – ousting Smallwood perhaps?
In term of the forward line, we’ve been missing Smith, but critically we have had no physical presence up top to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Both Oliver and Cook are being missed in this respect and of course they can score – Cook in particular.
Hughes has not had the full pack of cards to play with yet, so we don’t know what his team is truly capable of. It’s 10 competitive games into the season. Yes I concede the football has not been entertaining – yet – but we are into the 3rd round of the League Cup for the first time in ages and we have only lost 2 games despite being depleted from an attacking sense.
Despite missing key players we have shown resilience and solidity even though we haven’t been at our best. A great foundation therefore to build from. Talk of sacking is premature.
You don’t get rid of someone who has proven they can progress the club, just because we’ve hit a sticky patch – particularly when there are solid reasons why elements of our play is currently compromised due to key injuries.
Remeber this. Lawn and Rhodes showed belief and great confidence in Parkinson. When he hit sticky patches they stuck with him and worked through it – Lawns words. Parkinson hit a right rut only winning 1 in 21 games but because of the faith shown in him, he pulled it around and we finished strongly which laid the foundation for a play-off finish the following season. Some of the football at times under Parky was awful to watch but we saw it through and I suggest we do the same with Hughes.
Finally, I totally agree. What good has sacking managers left right and centre done for us in recent years? None whatsoever. Where is the continuity? It’s rip it up and start again and hope somebody gets lucky.
That’s not a strategy, that’s clueless leadership.
I’m sure we would all like stability, but not at any cost.
If we sack Hughes who is out there we can realistically get, and has a fair chance of improving results?
Unfortunately I can’t see Hughes turning things around to an extent where we push for promotion, even with key players back and up to speed.
He doesn’t seem to “get” league 2 and is showing no signs of learning.
We will will not make the playoffs trying to play our way through teams whilst no getting out of second gear.
If Rupp and Sparks don’t think Hughes can turn the season around they should back their judgement and make a change now. Seeing out his contract would be pointless and could cost more than paying him off.
I was just thinking this morning about West Ham’s good start this season. One of my friends is a season ticket supporter there. How they would have been frustrated last year with form, results and performances. I bet there was a fair bit of sack Moyes sentiment. And then they got a European trophy and a good start to this season. I am thinking for managers that it is easy to talk about the style of play, the squad, and everything from recruitment to amen fitting a plan (rather than trying things to see if they work). But if you are not a Pep in a Man City or whatever, where if you decide or want a thing (player in/out, identity) you will get it, then in the game of fine margins you are also trying to work out what you can get out of what you can get. You can’t automatically get the player who’s excitingly skilful AND consistent AND low injury risk AND young AND experienced AND in the position you need them etc. What I was left reflecting both for City (Parky, McCall and others) and other teams (Moyes, Arteta and many others) was that the number of times that a period of acutely worrying form/results/performance is followed by really very good times is high enough that it would for me be almost a never a good strategy to pull the plug on a project with its first slump period. Excepting something entirely unworkwithable like a manager evidently showing a hatred or contempt for their club and fanbase like himself recently, or they show racism or whatever. Also that it is good strategy to vocally back manager, club and players in times like the current one (though it’s harder to do when they don’t give you the reasons to find it easy to do). On that basis I am renting an apartment in down town Happy Clapper Ville and I am going to be focused on – well Walsall might be wobblier than Crawley, I can picture Chapman doing a few cool things, it’s not impossible Vadaine suprises with a bit of physical hold up play and clicks a bit keeping Cooky honest, I really like Pattison so far, these kids on loan are an interesting bunch – raw and not 100% reliable albeit, I do like Stubbs though he’s not perfect and Halliday and Ridehalgh, I wonder what Tyler Smith can do with a bit of speed. Is a really good time in the near future guaranteed? No. High probability? Maybe not? But it’s certainly a decent shout relatively speaking for a club like ours and I don’t go with – nah it’s impossible roll the dice again.