
By Jon Wolfe
A few weeks ago a fellow City fan wrote something in the comments section on this site, after yet another dismal performance sparked some discussion on the future of Mark Hughes. He claimed that to the best of his knowledge, in recent years not a single club had achieved promotion out of League Two after sacking its manager mid season. Really? I have to admit that I found that fact hard to believe. It was time to do some research.
The following table, which I have compiled, goes back 19 seasons, and it lists all the clubs who have been promoted during that period. It also shows who the manager was at the end of that season, plus the date that he was appointed and the date of his departure. Some other interesting points of discussion do arise and I will bring some of these to your attention later on in this article.
During the 19-season period covered in the table, 76 clubs got promoted out of League Two.
Out of the 76 clubs, 70 achieved their aim with the same man who started the season in charge remaining at the helm. In contrast just six clubs managed to get promotion after parting company with their manager mid season. These six occasions are highlighted in the table in bold.
The six clubs are:
- Burton Albion in 2014/15 who started with Gary Rowett in charge (Rowett quit Burton to become Birmingham manager).
- Scunthorpe Utd in 2013/14 who started with Brian Laws in charge (Laws was sacked).
- Crewe Alexandra in 2011/12 who started with Dario Gradi in charge (Gradi, 70 at the time, stood down).
- Bury in 2010/11 who started with Alan Knill in charge (Knill quit Bury to become Scunthorpe manager).
- Nott’s County in 2009/10 who started with Ian McParland in charge (McParland was sacked).
- And finally Swindon Town in 2006/07 who started with Dennis Wise in charge (Wise quit Swindon to take up a post at Leeds United).
Only two of these six mid-season changes were because the club sacked the manager (or three of these six, if we include Gradi standing down). Anyway here’s the table:
| Season | Club | Manager | Appointed | To |
| 2022/23 | Leyton Orient | Richie Wellens | Mar 2022 | Present |
| Stevenage | Steve Evans | Mar 2022 | Present | |
| Northampton T | Jon Brady | Feb 2021 | Present | |
| Carlisle United | Paul Simpson | Feb 2022 | Present | |
| 2021/22 | F G Rovers | Rob Edwards | May 2021 | May 2022 |
| Exeter | Matt Taylor | June 18 | Oct 2022 | |
| Bristol Rovers | Joey Barton | Feb 2021 | Present | |
| Port Vale | Darrell Clark | Feb 2021 | April 2023 | |
| 2020/21 | Cheltenham | Michael Duff | Sept 2018 | June 2023 |
| Cambridge Utd | Mark Bonner | Jan 2020 | Present | |
| Bolton W | Ian Evatt | Jul 2020 | Present | |
| Morecambe | Derek Adams | Nov 2019 | June 2021 | |
| 2019/20 | Swindon Town | Richie Wellens | Nov 2018 | Nov 2020 |
| Crewe Alex | David Artell | Jan 2017 | April 2022 | |
| Plymouth A | Ryan Lowe | June 2019 | Dec 2021 | |
| Northampton T | Keith Curle | Oct 2018 | Feb 2021 | |
| 2018/19 | Lincoln City | Danny Cowley | May 2016 | Sept 2019 |
| Bury | Ryan Lowe | Jan 2018 | June 2019 | |
| M K Dons | Paul Tisdale | July 2018 | Nov 2019 | |
| Tranmere Rovers | Micky Mellon | Oct 2016 | July 2020 | |
| 2017/18 | Accrington | John Coleman | Sept 2014 | Present |
| Luton Town | Nathan Jones | Jan 2016 | Jan 2019 | |
| Wycombe W | Gareth Ainsworth | Sept 2012 | Feb 2023 | |
| Coventry | Mark Robins | Mar 2017 | Present | |
| 2016/17 | Portsmouth | Paul Cook | May 2015 | May 2017 |
| Plymouth A | Derek Adams | June 2015 | April 2019 | |
| Doncaster R | Darren Ferguson | Oct 2015 | June 2018 | |
| Blackpool | Gary Bower | July 2016 | Aug 2018 | |
| 2015/16 | Northampton T | Chris Wilder | Jan 2014 | May 2016 |
| Oxford Utd | Michael Appleton | July 2014 | July 2017 | |
| Bristol Rovers | Darrell Clark | July 2014 | Dec 2018 | |
| Wimbledon | Neal Ardley | Oct 2012 | Nov 2018 | |
| 2014/15 | Burton Albion | J F Hasselbaink | Nov 2014 | Dec 2015 |
| Shrewsbury | Micky Mellon | May 2014 | Oct 2016 | |
| Bury | David Flitcroft | Dec 2013 | Nov 2016 | |
| Southend | Phil Brown | Mar 2013 | Jan 2018 | |
| 2013/14 | Chesterfield | Paul Cook | Oct 2012 | May 2015 |
| Scunthorpe Utd | Russ Wilcox | Nov 2013 | Oct 2014 | |
| Rochdale | Keith Hill | Jan 2013 | Mar 2019 | |
| Fleetwood | Graham Alexander | Dec 2012 | Sept 2015 | |
| 2012/13 | Gillingham | Martin Allen | Jul 2012 | Oct 2013 |
| Rotherham Utd | Steve Evans | April 2012 | Sept 2015 | |
| Port Vale | Micky Adams | May 2011 | Sept 2014 | |
| Bradford City | Phil Parkinson | Aug 2011 | June 2016 | |
| 2011/12 | Swindon | Paulo Di Canio | May 2011 | Feb 2013 |
| Shrewsbury | Graham Turner | June 2010 | Jan 2014 | |
| Crawley | Steve Evans | May 2007 | April 2012 | |
| Crewe A | Steve Davis | Nov 2011 | Jan 2017 | |
| 2010/11 | Chesterfield | John Sheridan | June 2009 | Aug 2012 |
| Bury | Richie Barker | Mar 2011 | Aug 2012 | |
| Wycombe W | Garry Waddock | Oct 2009 | Sept 2012 | |
| Stevenage | Graham Wesley | June 2008 | Jan 2012 | |
| 2009/10 | Notts County | Steve Cotterill | Feb 2010 | May 2010 |
| Bournemouth | Eddie Howe | Jan 2009 | Jan 2011 | |
| Rochdale | Keith Hill | Dec 2006 | June 2011 | |
| Dagenham | John Still | April 2004 | Feb 2013 | |
| 2008/09 | Brentford | Andy Scott | Dec 2007 | Feb 2011 |
| Exeter | Paul Tisdale | June 2006 | June 2018 | |
| Wycombe W | Peter Taylor | May 2008 | Oct 2009 | |
| Gillingham | Mark Stimson | Nov 2007 | May 2010 | |
| 2007/08 | MK Dons | Paul Ince | June 2007 | June 2008 |
| Peterborough | Darren Ferguson | Jan 2007 | Nov 2009 | |
| Hereford T | Graham Turner | Aug 1995 | April 2009 | |
| Stockport C | Jim Gannon | Jan 2006 | May 2009 | |
| 2006/07 | Walsall | Richard Money | May 2006 | April 2008 |
| Hartlepool | Danny Wilson | June 2006 | Dec 2008 | |
| Swindon | Paul Sturrock | Nov 2006 | Nov 2007 | |
| Bristol Rovers | Paul Trollope | Sept 2005 | Dec 2010 | |
| 2005/06 | Carlisle Utd | Paul Simpson | Aug 2003 | June 2006 |
| Northampton T | Colin Calderwood | Oct 2003 | May 2006 | |
| Leyton Orient | Martin Ling | Sept 2003 | Jan 2009 | |
| Cheltenham | John Ward | Nov 2003 | Oct 2007 | |
| 2004/05 | Yeovil Town | Gary Johnson | June 2001 | Sept 2005 |
| Scunthorpe Utd | Brian Laws | April 2004 | June 2006 | |
| Swansea City | Kenny Jackett | April 2004 | Feb 2007 | |
| Southend Utd | Steve Tilson | Nov 2003 | July 2010 |
To me that make’s pretty damming reading regarding a blueprint for success, not a single club has got promoted after changing its manager mid season since the 2014/15 season. And that fact is even more eye catching when you consider just how many managerial casualties there are, every year.
Over this 19-season period there were 352 mid season managerial changes, this averages out at 18.5 per season, and over 21 per season since Burton Albion’s promotion in 2014/15. This figure appears to be very high, as it suggests that most clubs change their managers mid season on a regular basis, but it does include temporary or interim appointments, which clouds the water somewhat.
Not every club has someone lined up when they decide to sack their manager; in fact I would guess that most clubs don’t have anyone in mind, hence the interim appointment while applicants are being interviewed. In some cases the temporary manager ends up being the permanent manager, but in other cases the discarded interim just adds to the tally of mid season appointments. To be truthful, most managers nowadays are of the interim type; such is the desire to hire and fire.
There is no doubt that sacking the manager is becoming almost the norm for lots of clubs. Last season (2022/23) there were 26 mid season managerial appointments in League Two, with over 20 changes in seven out of the last eight years. Compare that with the earlier seasons in our table when it was rare to get anywhere near 20, with 10, 11 and 13 being the lowest recorded.
So if you were a CEO of a League Two club, and you were aware of the relatively low success rate of clubs getting promoted after sacking their manager mid season, would it make you think about giving the man you appointed more time? Surely the template for success is to have the right man in place before the season starts, and then leave him in place.
This season, five clubs already have ignored the evidence and pulled the trigger, us obviously being one of them. Tranmere and Colchester, I suspect, were maybe not thinking of gate crashing the top seven, they were probably thinking more about preserving their League status. Gillingham on the other hand were comfortably placed near the top when they decided to sack Neil Harris. Only time will tell if they did the right thing.
As for us, we were somewhere in between Tranmere/Colchester and Gillingham: we were most definitely underperforming, with a play off place being the very lowest we should have been aiming at. But we were also far too close to the wrong end of the table, and that in itself gave cause for concern.
Indecently, although this is my first contribution to Width of a Post, I have via the comments section already stated that I was not in favour of sacking Hughes, even though I didn’t think that he would be the man to get us out of League Two. And I know that doesn’t make sense.
I think that I didn’t want my club to be just another club that hired and then fired when things didn’t go to plan; because of that Mark Hughes got my backing, but he didn’t deserve it. The late equaliser against Harrogate just prolonged the agony. The Walsall game was abysmal. He had to go. So where am I now?
Although I have tried to make a case for not sacking your manager by providing some cold hard facts, sometimes in football you have to ignore the cold hard facts, you have to trust your gut instinct, and you have to pull the bloody trigger.
Ten minutes into Kevin McDonald’s first game was all it took to convince me that Ryan Sparks had done the right thing, and the results and more importantly the performances since then have more than justified the pulling of the trigger. I will conveniently forget MK Dons away!
I would not like to be the man who makes the next appointment, it is a lottery, and I don’t do lotteries. I would be more than happy if Kevin changed his mind about wanting to play on, as we may have uncovered a gem. But some good names have been mentioned that I would also be happy with, providing they carry on with the style of play that we have enjoyed since McDonald took charge.
Whoever it is will get my backing. Onwards and upwards.
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Sparks simply has to get it right this time. If he chooses a manager who doesn’t appeal to the masses and things don’t get off to a good start, things could turn toxic very quickly.
Interesting to read. Much food for thought here. Of course, if a club sacks a manager, it is usually because his team is struggling near the bottom. That being the case, it is not that surprising that the team would then fail to win promotion. Such statistics as these can hardly be cited as evidence that failure to stick with the same manager is I undesirable in the general scheme of things, especially if that manager is perceived to be underachieving. It would be interesting to know how many instances there are of new managers steering teams away from relegation or reviving fortunes – judged shall we say in taking the team up the table significantly or achieving promotion the following season. It would also be interesting to crossplot these findings onto a graph recording which month of the year the sacking took place. Anyway, there are always exceptions and trend-buckers. Let’s hope we are one of them. I admire the writer’s industry.
Not getting promoted this season doesn’t mean it was the wrong decision to sack hughes
The squad is a mess and it will take some sorting
Getting a new man in by end November gives a better chance of sorting it out
Such a shame as we had a great squad at the start of last season
That’s what everyone says every season 🤦🏼♂️😂😂 we are going nowhere until this cycle of firing managers stops . Hughes wasn’t the man for league 2 but whoever takes over has to be given the time .
An interesting cross-comparison would be clubs that have stuck with their managers after being on an equivalent points total / league position after the first 12 games.
Bolton got promoted too. Anyway it’s too simplistic to look at all league 2 teams who sack managers and compare that to City. We are also underachieving with this squad. A blip on Tuesday night. But this squad is better than it’s position in the league. Another mini run and we’re up in the play offs. The league is tightly congested. City have a bigger advantage than other league 2 clubs to find the right manager. It’s just been poor judgement in the past. Sparks is right to take his time.
Sacking Hughes gave us that Wrexham performance/occasion and the re-kindling of a feeling that has been sadly absent (for up to 5 years now), of just how good supporting this club can be. If for nothing else, it was worth it!
31 games left. Give me 25 full-blooded performances like that (allow one off-day in 5) and let the chips fall where they may in terms of league position. Slow start, strong league etc.
What last Saturday showed us, was there are more important things week-to-week than being promotion chasing. Give us joy and entertainment on matchday and we’ll be happy.
Beware when the players are loving a new/temp manager – usually means they aren’t getting worked enough in training etc! Let’s face it we are in a mess and just pretending we aren’t ! The fact he played Taylor (no pace or desire to track back) Osedebe from the start and then brings on Oyagoke in midfield worrying is all I’m saying.
We must be on a deal with Brentford to play the lad somehow if we are shoehorning in that position. Develop him in his normal position by all means but not a chance as Halliday is playing outstandingly well. The only way to find out if a manager has what it takes truly is when the stress comes on ie a few defeats and then how to go about it. A club our size with all the noise and a bloated squad and little football knowledge at the top needs a manager with a modicum of experience or at least to be a full time manager.
2 off days in 5 now – was enough to get Hughes sacked!!
Personally I couldn’t see Mark Hughes getting us promotion this season anyway (or the next, or the next after that) if I could I would have been shouting for him to stay
In my opinion the squad looks unbalanced, atleast changing our manager this early gives the new manager time to assess things and two transfer windows before next season starts to change a few things and hopefully then be in a position to challenge next season.
It also gives him time to decide wether to offer the out of contract players new contracts in the summer.
Its nice to go into the close season with a plan, knowing your targets rather than trying to play catch up and instead getting players that no one else is interested in (although some can still turn out to be gems)
The interesting aspect i take from this article is the shift in management in recent years and teams having sucess with younger inexperienced managers.
In recent years the likes of Ryan Lowe, Ian Evatt, Nathan Jones, Rob Edwards have all been given their first managerial roles in league 2 and gone on to lead their teams to promotion.
If we look further ahead in league 1 and the championship and we currently have Portsmouth unbeaten and top of the league with John Mousinho. Look at social media when he was first appointed and you’ll find comments from fans claiming pompey have no ambition, Done on the cheap. Yet they sit 6 points clear at the top of league 1 and hard to argue against them continuing that run of form.
The average age of the managers of the top 4 teams in league 1 at this moment is 39.
And i appreciate that for every succesful young manager they’ll also be other young managers like Scott Brown or Wade Elliott who left their clubs this season sitting in the relegation zone.
I supose who ever city appoint it’s likely to create opinion but i would very much like us to take a different approach and move away from the experience of the likes of Hughes and Adams and bring in someone younger and fresher, It equally will prove to be a gamble but looking at recent years it may bring with it success.
If and a big if Kevin Mc is given the reigns then the only realistic way this happens is with a very experienced No2 next to him who also is able to lend much needed support to the footballing side of the club in a DoF capacity. Obviously Paul Jewell would be a name we would all like to dream of but I’m sure Kevin has some good contacts in mind as well. Ryan has good value but lacks true experience with footballing decisions and contacts nobody can deny that.
Mark Hughes signing achievement in the close season was the main factor why he had to go. So was Cook’s injury (Newport apart, Cook has been largely inaffective). Hughes missed his involvement. City missed Cook’s presence. Any new incumbent manager has to make do with what he’s got. In my opinion, that is why few mid term manager appointments are not successful.
I think this season, MK Don’s may succeed because they have a decent squad and a new manager that was poached and has a decent record. I don’t believe Mcdonald has the experience to improve this team because they don’t have the quality. That will be true if a new manager gets appointed. If we do appoint a manager he needs time to bring in his own players. Sadly, we have supporters that expect immediate results.
MH was arguably better with the squad he inherited than with the one he built.
Cheers Jon, found that an interesting article and I was on the fence with Hughes at the end as I still thought he should’ve had another couple of games but in my heart of hearts – still didn’t believe we’d do much this season with that start. Happy with McD but do have some concerns as I was well behind T&S when they had a good start and that didn’t end well. Thanks for your first contribution to WOAP – much appreciated!
Cheers Jon, found that an interesting article and I was on the fence with Hughes at the end as I still thought he should’ve had another couple of games but in my heart of hearts – still didn’t believe we’d do much this season with that start. Happy with McD but do have some concerns as I was well behind T&S when they had a good start and that didn’t end well. Thanks for your first contribution to WOAP – much appreciated!
For sure I would not like to make this appointment. So much rests on it, the whole short term future of the club is dependent upon Sparks picking the right man. I hope he will try and get advice from 1 or 2 people in the game first.
I know I don’t want Warnock, hate that guy. Besides he is neatly 80?? Also, Big Sam, no way. Wish there was a good PL centre half nearing retirement, like Sir Roy or TC. Other than that someone who will play attacking football and get everyone giving their all both on the pitch and off it. Oh yes and someone who has a plan.
Amongst all that, hope they remember BP needs a new contract.
Great article! Though, as a supporter for 63 years, the findings do not surprise me.
I was in the minority who wouldn’t have sacked Hughes. The revolving turnstile of managers never works.
This season we are suffering from last season play off syndrome that affects many clubs (including Salford) but with patience we would have come through it.
We, the fans, are partly to blame with our negative reactions and a sense of entitlement which belies our stature as a low division team – but the main culprits appear to me to be the inexperienced management team who make these knee jerk reactions.
Too early to say if Kevin is the answer but I sincerely hope that he is. Whatever, it would be great if the next permanent manager is given time to build and deliver.
What are the odds on Morecambe getting promoted again this year?
Worth pointing out that Notts county may have changed their manager but this was the year the club brought in Sven Gorman Eriksson , led hughes and kasper Schmeichel in goal, amongst others. Think a manager left then Cotterill came in with a pretty good side ( included matt Richie etc…)
Bring in Steve Evans now!
I’d like to say that I am amazed how many fans wanted to give Mcdonald the job on just a few games but in reality I’m not. Some fans get carried away. Indeed where are these same fans tonight after another poor defeat? It all reminds me of the Trueman and Sellars period when results were undoubtedly good but the imo, knowledgeable football eye, could see different. We could have easily lost v Swindon and defo Wimbledon imo and said so.
However Mcdonald did make us more positive but only slightly. We still had one up top, everyone back for corners, 4231, slow throw ins, inverted wingers etc, so in reality little had changed. However we weren’t seemingly passing it around at the back for no tactical reason although today yet again this became more apparent.
Despite all this any new manager will face the real cause of this seasons issues…recruitment. the entire strategy by those concerned has been woeful. Gent and whomever involved should either walk or issue at least an explanation as to why we have an entire team of players who cannot even make the bench on a match day yet we have only 2 available strikers, one if whom looks like he’s playing injured and the other has no goals threat. 31 I believe players and when Walker and Smallwood are missing we didnt seem to have equatable replacements. All those similar ‘meh’ players, some signed on 3 year contracts. Afoka, ogeyoke, Smith, tulloch, Richards, Odour, osadebe [yep, Mr inconsistent personified), amongst others. Not one of these players shouts promotion to me. At least 11 defenders on the books etc. A total mess imo. And if it hasn’t been solely Gent’s doing then it’s about time that Sparks, Trueman et al roles were heavily questioned. An absolute recruitment shambles imo with no direction or effective leadership.