Changing your manager mid season in League Two – the bare facts   

By Jon Wolfe

A few weeks ago a fellow City fan wrote something in the comments section on this site, after yet another dismal performance sparked some discussion on the future of Mark Hughes. He claimed that to the best of his knowledge, in recent years not a single club had achieved promotion out of League Two after sacking its manager mid season. Really? I have to admit that I found that fact hard to believe. It was time to do some research.

The following table, which I have compiled, goes back 19 seasons, and it lists all the clubs who have been promoted during that period. It also shows who the manager was at the end of that season, plus the date that he was appointed and the date of his departure. Some other interesting points of discussion do arise and I will bring some of these to your attention later on in this article.

During the 19-season period covered in the table, 76 clubs got promoted out of League Two.

Out of the 76 clubs, 70 achieved their aim with the same man who started the season in charge remaining at the helm. In contrast just six clubs managed to get promotion after parting company with their manager mid season. These six occasions are highlighted in the table in bold.

The six clubs are:

  • Burton Albion in 2014/15 who started with Gary Rowett in charge (Rowett quit Burton to become Birmingham manager).
  • Scunthorpe Utd in 2013/14 who started with Brian Laws in charge (Laws was sacked).
  • Crewe Alexandra in 2011/12 who started with Dario Gradi in charge (Gradi, 70 at the time, stood down).
  • Bury in 2010/11 who started with Alan Knill in charge (Knill quit Bury to become Scunthorpe manager).
  • Nott’s County in 2009/10 who started with Ian McParland in charge (McParland was sacked).
  • And finally Swindon Town in 2006/07 who started with Dennis Wise in charge (Wise quit Swindon to take up a post at Leeds United).

Only two of these six mid-season changes were because the club sacked the manager (or three of these six, if we include Gradi standing down). Anyway here’s the table:

Season  ClubManagerAppointedTo
  2022/23Leyton OrientRichie WellensMar 2022Present
StevenageSteve EvansMar 2022Present
Northampton TJon BradyFeb 2021Present
Carlisle UnitedPaul SimpsonFeb 2022Present
     
  2021/22F G RoversRob EdwardsMay 2021May 2022
ExeterMatt TaylorJune 18Oct 2022
Bristol RoversJoey BartonFeb 2021Present
Port ValeDarrell ClarkFeb 2021April 2023
     
  2020/21CheltenhamMichael DuffSept 2018June 2023
Cambridge UtdMark BonnerJan 2020Present
Bolton WIan EvattJul 2020Present
MorecambeDerek AdamsNov 2019June 2021
     
  2019/20Swindon TownRichie WellensNov 2018Nov 2020
Crewe AlexDavid ArtellJan 2017April 2022
Plymouth ARyan LoweJune 2019Dec 2021
Northampton TKeith CurleOct 2018Feb 2021
     
  2018/19Lincoln CityDanny CowleyMay 2016Sept 2019
BuryRyan LoweJan 2018June 2019
M K DonsPaul TisdaleJuly 2018Nov 2019
Tranmere RoversMicky MellonOct 2016July 2020
     
  2017/18AccringtonJohn ColemanSept 2014Present
Luton TownNathan JonesJan 2016Jan 2019
Wycombe WGareth AinsworthSept 2012Feb 2023
CoventryMark RobinsMar 2017Present
     
  2016/17PortsmouthPaul CookMay 2015May 2017
Plymouth ADerek AdamsJune 2015April 2019
Doncaster RDarren FergusonOct 2015June 2018
BlackpoolGary BowerJuly 2016Aug 2018
     
  2015/16Northampton TChris WilderJan 2014May 2016
Oxford UtdMichael AppletonJuly 2014July 2017
Bristol RoversDarrell ClarkJuly 2014Dec 2018
WimbledonNeal ArdleyOct 2012Nov 2018
     
  2014/15Burton AlbionJ F HasselbainkNov 2014Dec 2015
ShrewsburyMicky MellonMay 2014Oct 2016
BuryDavid FlitcroftDec 2013Nov 2016
SouthendPhil BrownMar 2013Jan 2018
     
  2013/14ChesterfieldPaul CookOct 2012May 2015
Scunthorpe UtdRuss WilcoxNov 2013Oct 2014
RochdaleKeith HillJan 2013Mar 2019
FleetwoodGraham AlexanderDec 2012Sept 2015
     
  2012/13GillinghamMartin AllenJul 2012Oct 2013
Rotherham UtdSteve EvansApril 2012Sept 2015
Port ValeMicky AdamsMay 2011Sept 2014
Bradford CityPhil ParkinsonAug 2011June 2016
     
  2011/12SwindonPaulo Di CanioMay 2011Feb 2013
ShrewsburyGraham TurnerJune 2010Jan 2014
CrawleySteve EvansMay 2007April 2012
Crewe ASteve DavisNov 2011Jan 2017
     
  2010/11ChesterfieldJohn SheridanJune 2009Aug 2012
BuryRichie BarkerMar 2011Aug 2012
Wycombe WGarry WaddockOct 2009Sept 2012
StevenageGraham WesleyJune 2008Jan 2012
     
  2009/10Notts CountySteve CotterillFeb 2010May 2010
BournemouthEddie HoweJan 2009Jan 2011
RochdaleKeith HillDec 2006June 2011
DagenhamJohn StillApril 2004Feb 2013
     
  2008/09BrentfordAndy ScottDec 2007Feb 2011
ExeterPaul TisdaleJune 2006June 2018
Wycombe WPeter TaylorMay 2008Oct 2009
GillinghamMark StimsonNov 2007May 2010
     
  2007/08MK DonsPaul InceJune 2007June 2008
PeterboroughDarren FergusonJan 2007Nov 2009
Hereford TGraham TurnerAug 1995April 2009
Stockport CJim GannonJan 2006May 2009
     
  2006/07WalsallRichard MoneyMay 2006April 2008
HartlepoolDanny WilsonJune 2006Dec 2008
SwindonPaul SturrockNov 2006Nov 2007
Bristol RoversPaul TrollopeSept 2005Dec 2010
     
  2005/06Carlisle UtdPaul SimpsonAug 2003June 2006
Northampton TColin CalderwoodOct 2003May 2006
Leyton OrientMartin LingSept 2003Jan 2009
CheltenhamJohn WardNov 2003Oct 2007
     
  2004/05Yeovil TownGary JohnsonJune 2001Sept 2005
Scunthorpe UtdBrian LawsApril 2004June 2006
Swansea CityKenny JackettApril 2004Feb 2007
Southend UtdSteve TilsonNov 2003July 2010

To me that make’s pretty damming reading regarding a blueprint for success, not a single club has got promoted after changing its manager mid season since the 2014/15 season. And that fact is even more eye catching when you consider just how many managerial casualties there are, every year.

Over this 19-season period there were 352 mid season managerial changes, this averages out at 18.5 per season, and over 21 per season since Burton Albion’s promotion in 2014/15. This figure appears to be very high, as it suggests that most clubs change their managers mid season on a regular basis, but it does include temporary or interim appointments, which clouds the water somewhat.  

Not every club has someone lined up when they decide to sack their manager; in fact I would guess that most clubs don’t have anyone in mind, hence the interim appointment while applicants are being interviewed. In some cases the temporary manager ends up being the permanent manager, but in other cases the discarded interim just adds to the tally of mid season appointments. To be truthful, most managers nowadays are of the interim type; such is the desire to hire and fire.

There is no doubt that sacking the manager is becoming almost the norm for lots of clubs. Last season (2022/23) there were 26 mid season managerial appointments in League Two, with over 20 changes in seven out of the last eight years. Compare that with the earlier seasons in our table when it was rare to get anywhere near 20, with 10, 11 and 13 being the lowest recorded.

So if you were a CEO of a League Two club, and you were aware of the relatively low success rate of clubs getting promoted after sacking their manager mid season, would it make you think about giving the man you appointed more time? Surely the template for success is to have the right man in place before the season starts, and then leave him in place.

This season, five clubs already have ignored the evidence and pulled the trigger, us obviously being one of them. Tranmere and Colchester, I suspect, were maybe not thinking of gate crashing the top seven, they were probably thinking more about preserving their League status. Gillingham on the other hand were comfortably placed near the top when they decided to sack Neil Harris. Only time will tell if they did the right thing.

As for us, we were somewhere in between Tranmere/Colchester and Gillingham: we were most definitely underperforming, with a play off place being the very lowest we should have been aiming at. But we were also far too close to the wrong end of the table, and that in itself gave cause for concern.

Indecently, although this is my first contribution to Width of a Post, I have via the comments section already stated that I was not in favour of sacking Hughes, even though I didn’t think that he would be the man to get us out of League Two. And I know that doesn’t make sense.

I think that I didn’t want my club to be just another club that hired and then fired when things didn’t go to plan; because of that Mark Hughes got my backing, but he didn’t deserve it. The late equaliser against Harrogate just prolonged the agony. The Walsall game was abysmal. He had to go. So where am I now?

Although I have tried to make a case for not sacking your manager by providing some cold hard facts, sometimes in football you have to ignore the cold hard facts, you have to trust your gut instinct, and you have to pull the bloody trigger.

Ten minutes into Kevin McDonald’s first game was all it took to convince me that Ryan Sparks had done the right thing, and the results and more importantly the performances since then have more than justified the pulling of the trigger. I will conveniently forget MK Dons away!

I would not like to be the man who makes the next appointment, it is a lottery, and I don’t do lotteries. I would be more than happy if Kevin changed his mind about wanting to play on, as we may have uncovered a gem. But some good names have been mentioned that I would also be happy with, providing they carry on with the style of play that we have enjoyed since McDonald took charge.

Whoever it is will get my backing. Onwards and upwards.



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21 replies

  1. Sparks simply has to get it right this time. If he chooses a manager who doesn’t appeal to the masses and things don’t get off to a good start, things could turn toxic very quickly.

  2. Interesting to read. Much food for thought here. Of course, if a club sacks a manager, it is usually because his team is struggling near the bottom. That being the case, it is not that surprising that the team would then fail to win promotion. Such statistics as these can hardly be cited as evidence that failure to stick with the same manager is I undesirable in the general scheme of things, especially if that manager is perceived to be underachieving. It would be interesting to know how many instances there are of new managers steering teams away from relegation or reviving fortunes – judged shall we say in taking the team up the table significantly or achieving promotion the following season. It would also be interesting to crossplot these findings onto a graph recording which month of the year the sacking took place. Anyway, there are always exceptions and trend-buckers. Let’s hope we are one of them. I admire the writer’s industry.

  3. Not getting promoted this season doesn’t mean it was the wrong decision to sack hughes
    The squad is a mess and it will take some sorting
    Getting a new man in by end November gives a better chance of sorting it out
    Such a shame as we had a great squad at the start of last season

    • That’s what everyone says every season 🤦🏼‍♂️😂😂 we are going nowhere until this cycle of firing managers stops . Hughes wasn’t the man for league 2 but whoever takes over has to be given the time .

  4. An interesting cross-comparison would be clubs that have stuck with their managers after being on an equivalent points total / league position after the first 12 games.

    • Bolton got promoted too. Anyway it’s too simplistic to look at all league 2 teams who sack managers and compare that to City. We are also underachieving with this squad. A blip on Tuesday night. But this squad is better than it’s position in the league. Another mini run and we’re up in the play offs. The league is tightly congested. City have a bigger advantage than other league 2 clubs to find the right manager. It’s just been poor judgement in the past. Sparks is right to take his time.

  5. Sacking Hughes gave us that Wrexham performance/occasion and the re-kindling of a feeling that has been sadly absent (for up to 5 years now), of just how good supporting this club can be. If for nothing else, it was worth it!

    31 games left. Give me 25 full-blooded performances like that (allow one off-day in 5) and let the chips fall where they may in terms of league position. Slow start, strong league etc.

    What last Saturday showed us, was there are more important things week-to-week than being promotion chasing. Give us joy and entertainment on matchday and we’ll be happy.

    • Beware when the players are loving a new/temp manager – usually means they aren’t getting worked enough in training etc! Let’s face it we are in a mess and just pretending we aren’t ! The fact he played Taylor (no pace or desire to track back) Osedebe from the start and then brings on Oyagoke in midfield worrying is all I’m saying.
      We must be on a deal with Brentford to play the lad somehow if we are shoehorning in that position. Develop him in his normal position by all means but not a chance as Halliday is playing outstandingly well. The only way to find out if a manager has what it takes truly is when the stress comes on ie a few defeats and then how to go about it. A club our size with all the noise and a bloated squad and little football knowledge at the top needs a manager with a modicum of experience or at least to be a full time manager.

    • 2 off days in 5 now – was enough to get Hughes sacked!!

  6. Personally I couldn’t see Mark Hughes getting us promotion this season anyway (or the next, or the next after that) if I could I would have been shouting for him to stay

    In my opinion the squad looks unbalanced, atleast changing our manager this early gives the new manager time to assess things and two transfer windows before next season starts to change a few things and hopefully then be in a position to challenge next season.

    It also gives him time to decide wether to offer the out of contract players new contracts in the summer.

    Its nice to go into the close season with a plan, knowing your targets rather than trying to play catch up and instead getting players that no one else is interested in (although some can still turn out to be gems)

  7. The interesting aspect i take from this article is the shift in management in recent years and teams having sucess with younger inexperienced managers.

    In recent years the likes of Ryan Lowe, Ian Evatt, Nathan Jones, Rob Edwards have all been given their first managerial roles in league 2 and gone on to lead their teams to promotion.

    If we look further ahead in league 1 and the championship and we currently have Portsmouth unbeaten and top of the league with John Mousinho. Look at social media when he was first appointed and you’ll find comments from fans claiming pompey have no ambition, Done on the cheap. Yet they sit 6 points clear at the top of league 1 and hard to argue against them continuing that run of form.

    The average age of the managers of the top 4 teams in league 1 at this moment is 39.

    And i appreciate that for every succesful young manager they’ll also be other young managers like Scott Brown or Wade Elliott who left their clubs this season sitting in the relegation zone.

    I supose who ever city appoint it’s likely to create opinion but i would very much like us to take a different approach and move away from the experience of the likes of Hughes and Adams and bring in someone younger and fresher, It equally will prove to be a gamble but looking at recent years it may bring with it success.

  8. If and a big if Kevin Mc is given the reigns then the only realistic way this happens is with a very experienced No2 next to him who also is able to lend much needed support to the footballing side of the club in a DoF capacity. Obviously Paul Jewell would be a name we would all like to dream of but I’m sure Kevin has some good contacts in mind as well. Ryan has good value but lacks true experience with footballing decisions and contacts nobody can deny that.

  9. Mark Hughes signing achievement in the close season was the main factor why he had to go. So was Cook’s injury (Newport apart, Cook has been largely inaffective). Hughes missed his involvement. City missed Cook’s presence. Any new incumbent manager has to make do with what he’s got. In my opinion, that is why few mid term manager appointments are not successful.

    I think this season, MK Don’s may succeed because they have a decent squad and a new manager that was poached and has a decent record. I don’t believe Mcdonald has the experience to improve this team because they don’t have the quality. That will be true if a new manager gets appointed. If we do appoint a manager he needs time to bring in his own players. Sadly, we have supporters that expect immediate results.

  10. Cheers Jon, found that an interesting article and I was on the fence with Hughes at the end as I still thought he should’ve had another couple of games but in my heart of hearts – still didn’t believe we’d do much this season with that start. Happy with McD but do have some concerns as I was well behind T&S when they had a good start and that didn’t end well. Thanks for your first contribution to WOAP – much appreciated!

  11. Cheers Jon, found that an interesting article and I was on the fence with Hughes at the end as I still thought he should’ve had another couple of games but in my heart of hearts – still didn’t believe we’d do much this season with that start. Happy with McD but do have some concerns as I was well behind T&S when they had a good start and that didn’t end well. Thanks for your first contribution to WOAP – much appreciated!

  12. For sure I would not like to make this appointment. So much rests on it, the whole short term future of the club is dependent upon Sparks picking the right man. I hope he will try and get advice from 1 or 2 people in the game first.

    I know I don’t want Warnock, hate that guy. Besides he is neatly 80?? Also, Big Sam, no way. Wish there was a good PL centre half nearing retirement, like Sir Roy or TC. Other than that someone who will play attacking football and get everyone giving their all both on the pitch and off it. Oh yes and someone who has a plan.
    Amongst all that, hope they remember BP needs a new contract.

  13. Great article! Though, as a supporter for 63 years, the findings do not surprise me.
    I was in the minority who wouldn’t have sacked Hughes. The revolving turnstile of managers never works.
    This season we are suffering from last season play off syndrome that affects many clubs (including Salford) but with patience we would have come through it.
    We, the fans, are partly to blame with our negative reactions and a sense of entitlement which belies our stature as a low division team – but the main culprits appear to me to be the inexperienced management team who make these knee jerk reactions.
    Too early to say if Kevin is the answer but I sincerely hope that he is. Whatever, it would be great if the next permanent manager is given time to build and deliver.
    What are the odds on Morecambe getting promoted again this year?

  14. Worth pointing out that Notts county may have changed their manager but this was the year the club brought in Sven Gorman Eriksson , led hughes and kasper Schmeichel in goal, amongst others. Think a manager left then Cotterill came in with a pretty good side ( included matt Richie etc…)

  15. Bring in Steve Evans now!

  16. I’d like to say that I am amazed how many fans wanted to give Mcdonald the job on just a few games but in reality I’m not. Some fans get carried away. Indeed where are these same fans tonight after another poor defeat? It all reminds me of the Trueman and Sellars period when results were undoubtedly good but the imo, knowledgeable football eye, could see different. We could have easily lost v Swindon and defo Wimbledon imo and said so.

    However Mcdonald did make us more positive but only slightly. We still had one up top, everyone back for corners, 4231, slow throw ins, inverted wingers etc, so in reality little had changed. However we weren’t seemingly passing it around at the back for no tactical reason although today yet again this became more apparent.

    Despite all this any new manager will face the real cause of this seasons issues…recruitment. the entire strategy by those concerned has been woeful. Gent and whomever involved should either walk or issue at least an explanation as to why we have an entire team of players who cannot even make the bench on a match day yet we have only 2 available strikers, one if whom looks like he’s playing injured and the other has no goals threat. 31 I believe players and when Walker and Smallwood are missing we didnt seem to have equatable replacements. All those similar ‘meh’ players, some signed on 3 year contracts. Afoka, ogeyoke, Smith, tulloch, Richards, Odour, osadebe [yep, Mr inconsistent personified), amongst others. Not one of these players shouts promotion to me. At least 11 defenders on the books etc. A total mess imo. And if it hasn’t been solely Gent’s doing then it’s about time that Sparks, Trueman et al roles were heavily questioned. An absolute recruitment shambles imo with no direction or effective leadership.